Many turners have contributed to my pryography in the last couple of years. Sometimes they turn up something and think it's a bit boring. Then I get to tizz it up, but often I lean on them to turn me something that "looks like this///or that//with a flat bit here//or there". No one has ever said "no" which I appreciate tremendously. Mackay Woodturners rock! Allen continues to turn items to order - and eat.